Das Flüstern

[Günni]

Das Flüstern

FRAGEN
Woher stammt das Flüstern im Dschungel?
Wer steckt dahinter? Die Others?
Welchen Zweck hat das Flüstern?
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EPISODEN
First appearance: Solitary (01x09)
Last appearance: The Man Behind the Curtain (03x20)
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BEWEISE & INDIZIEN
• Danielle sagte, sie habe auf der Insel noch nie andere Menschen gesehen, aber immer wieder das Flüstern gehört.
• Es gibt deutlich hörbares und verstecktes Flüstern, das nur mit speziellem Werkzeug zu entschlüsseln ist.
• Nach Sayids erstem Treffen mit Rousseau war das Flüstern zum ersten Mal zu hören (01x09).
• Sawyer hörte das Flüstern sowohl am Strand als auch im Dschungel (01x16).
• Kurz bevor Shannon erschossen wurde, hörten sowohl sie und Sayid als auch Ana-Lucia, Eko, Libby, Bernard, Sawyer, Michael und Jin das Flüstern (02x06/02x07).
• Während Ekos erster Begegnung mit dem Monster und nach seinem Tod war das Flüstern zu erkennen (02x10/03x05).
• In der Episode 02x14 konnte man es an mehreren Stellen erkennen.
• Auch während des Abspielens des Autopsie-Tapes war das Flüstern zu vernehmen (02x21).
• Kurz bevor Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer und Michael in 2x23 von den „Others“ attackiert wurden, war das Flüstern zu hören.
• Während Jack in der Hydra Station die Sprechanlage benutzte, gab es ein Flüstern (03x01).
• Der junge Ben hörte bei seinem Ausflug in den Dschungel das Flüstern sehr deutlich (03x20).
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SCHLUSSFOLGERUNG / THESEN
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VERWANDTE THEMEN
• Die Erscheinungen (http://www.menoffaith.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=563)

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DISKUSSION
Bitte nutzt dieses Thema nur zur Sammlung von Fakten, Beweisen & Indizien, die uns bei der Lösung des Rätsels weiterbringen. Verzichtet bitte an dieser Stelle auf eine ausschweifende Diskussion und nutzt dafür die normalen Diskussionsforen. Falls ihr Anregungen oder Korrekturvorschläge habt, hinterlasst bitte einen Hinweis.

[LostSpooky]

Sayid

01x09 SOLITARY

Man's voice
"Just let him get out of here"
Man's voice
"He's seen too much already"
Man's voice
"What if he tells"
Woman's voice
"Could just speak to him"
Man's voice
"No"

[LostSpooky]

Sawyer im Dschungel

01x16 OUTLAWS

Linke Tonspur:
"How could you say that, I knew he was American"
"It was a large group"
"It'll come back around"
Frank Duckett's voice
"Now listen
Here’s what we should do
Nothing
It’s not the one
He’s coming up on the gate"

Mittlere Tonspur:
"How could you say that, I knew he was American"
"Hey listen, come on let’s go"
"Go and see what he's doing"
"Duetch negg" or "Joice leg"
(perhaps another language or reversed)
"Like it's your choice"
"He's coming up on the gate"
"My guess is to shoot the pig"
or "Guess he'll shoot the pig"
"Yes"
"My hand" or "My head" "is free"

Rechte Tonspur:
"How could you even say that, I knew he was an American"
"Hey listen, come on let's go"
"Go and see what he's doing"
"He's coming up on the gate"
"My guess is to shoot the pig..."
"Okay"

[LostSpooky]

Sawyer am Strand

01x16 OUTLAWS

Linke Tonspur:
(Sawyer breathing)
"There goes another poking his head in here"
or "There goes somebody"
"Yeah, let's see what he's doing"
"Let's"
"Let me decide"
"Come back"
"Wait"
"I see another one"
Frank Duckett's voice
"It'll come back around"

Mittlere Tonspur:
"Oh my god there's a guy out there"
"Dennis (?) find out what's going on"
"Did he see us?"
"Maybe"
"Open it"
"Did you see what direction he went?"
"Right through those trees"
"Go and get him"
"There is an explanation" (or "resolution") "and I bet you haven't thought of it"
"What is it?"
"He's been in a plane crash"
"Are you sure?"
"I know what it's like for a plane to crash"
"Complain, complain, complain"
"I want to get closer"
"I know what you said, but he's looking around"
"What if he shoots us or something"

Rechte Tonspur:
"There may be something, but it may be slack"
"Let's go"
"Has he seen us?"
(Alarms go off)
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry"
"Intruder, Intruder"
"Hide against the bushes"
"Open the door"
"I know what it's like for a plane to crash"
"Complain, complain, complain"
"I know what you said, but..."

[LostSpooky]

Shannon und Sayid

02x06 ABANDONED

Linke Tonspur:
"Relax dude"
"She likes the guy"
"She’s coming"
"I don't know if I can run, but I can (or can't) yell"
"Shannon sighs"
(Scream)
"Dying sucks"
"Hurry up"
"Shh..."

Mittlere Tonspur:
"She likes this guy"
"Dying sucks"
"Hi sis"
"Here she comes, here she comes"
"His mouth"
"She drives me crazy"
"Hurry up"
"I see eye to eye"
"I see..."

Rechte Tonspur:
"Relax dude"
"She likes the guy"
"What do you think we should do?"
"She’s coming"
"We should hide, we should run"
"Heard some voice"
"See ya" or "Lucia"
"Hide the scope"
"Hurry up"

[LostSpooky]

Tailies, Michael, Jin und Sawyer

02x06 ABANDONED

Linke Tonspur:
"Who's this in the woods"
"Sawyer"
"Ana"
"I’m in someone’s dream"
"Ich weiß nicht"
"She’s heavy"
"Black Rock"
"Bring the boy"
"I’m in someone’s dream"

Mittlere Tonspur:
"Look in the eyes, right?"
"Do you see her?" or "Lucia"
"It’s the brothers that help us"
"I can see eye to eye"
"Sawyer"
"Did she see?"
"Bossy eh missy?"
"I’m in someone’s dream"
"I know it all, I know it all"
"It’s the eyes" or "Lucia"
"I can see eye to eye"
"I’m in someone’s dream"

Rechte Tonspur:
"I know it all, I know it all"
"Do you see her?" or possibly "Lucia"
"I can see eye to eye"
"Did she see?"
"Shannon"
"Hide behind me"
"Bossy eh missy?"
"I’m in someone’s dream"
"I know it all"
"Under the eye" or "Eye to eye"
"It’s the eyes" or "Lucia"
"I can see eye to eye"
"She’s bossy"
"I’m in someone’s dream"

[LostSpooky]

Shannon und Sayid

02x07 THE OTHER 48 DAYS

Linke Tonspur:
"Relax Dude, I think she likes the guy"
"You're life"
"Ich weiß nicht"
"Look out"
"Ana’s the trigger"
"You're gonna kill her"
"Move on"
(Gun shot)
"See ya"
(Like a chorus singing just after the gunshot)

Mittlere Tonspur:
"Shannon"
"She likes the guy, she likes the guy"
"Shannon"
"Your life and and time is up"
"Help me"
"Shannon, meet me on the other side"
"Her song"
"Ana-Lucia" when reversed
(Gun shot)

Rechte Tonspur:
"Relax dude, she likes the guy, she likes the guy"
"Shannon"
"I know it all I know it all..."
"Dying sucks"
"Shannon"
"I don't think you should tell her when she comes"
"Obviously she likes you"
"Who's the guy?"
"I want to see Shannon"
"Eye to eye"
"Who's the guy?"
"Fire Lucia"
"The brothers that help us"
"Are you done with it?"
"Her song"
"Ana-Lucia" when reversed
(Gun shot)
"Fire"

[LostSpooky]

Mr. Eko und "Smokey"

02x10 THE 23RD PSALM

(Facing off with Mr. Eko)
"Who are you and why are you here?"
"Report, report!"
"Saw Charlie with him"
"There’s Charlie"
"Go to hell"
"Steadily"

(Within the smoke)
"He’s trying here"
"Nothing yet"
"Now try him from here, okay"
"Those are the roles (or rules) you accept"
"Go to hell"
(said with Eko’s accent)
"Nine"
"Where"
"Seven"
"He’s hiding something"
"He’s hiding from me"

[LostSpooky]

Sayid und "Henry Gale"

02x14 ONE OF THEM

"Maybe we should have stopped it / him"
"Try to execute"
"We've got to see if we can get through to him"
(Sayid: Tell me about this balloon)
"Get off for a second"
(Henry: What?)
"Something's blocking it / It's right beside him"
(Sayid: This balloon that brought you here with your wife)
"Go ahead and do it"
"Might have heard from him" / "My eyes hurt"
(Henry: What do you want to know)
"Is he gonna give it away"
"He's interrogating him"
(Sayid: Everything)
"Calmly begin speaking and act completely..."
"So it's okay..."
"We can get you through this ordeal"
"We are minding the radio"
(Henry: She's a hundred and forty feet high, sixty feet wide...)
"It ain't sixty feet..."
"It can't be much taller than that... maybe a hundred footer"
(Henry: and when she's up in the air, 550,000 cubic feet of helium...)
"Clearly he thought you were on top if it" / "Clearly he's not too on top of it"
"That gives more to do"
(Henry: And if you could look down on her...)
"He's on to him"
"Probably blew it"
(Henry: you'd see a...)
"So he buys it"
"He played him"
(Henry: big yellow smiley face on top)
"It's not quite ready"
"I need help"
"They don't believe him"
(Sayid: Why would you travel in that way?)
"Tell him for my business"
"Why else would he do it"
(Henry: Because I was rich...)
"Any country might have fit"
"Just stay calm and he won't hurt you"
(Henry: It was my dream)
"I know you're doing something"
"Screwed something up" / "He *beep* it up"
"I don't know how else to put it"

[LostSpooky]

Jack, Sayid und "Henry Gale"

02x14 ONE OF THEM

"Too close"
(Right after Henry says “I’ll tell you whatever you want”)
"Don't talk to them"
(Behind He's lying)
"That guy's stupid"
(Behind He's lying)
"I'd never let them beat me"
"I protect my people"
"What do you want to do?"
(Very faint)
"Don't let them break you Henry"
(Very faint)
"Who told you they're gone?"
"Think carefully now"
"How are we gonna save Henry?"
"You can't save him"
"I can hear you"
"What have I got to do"
"Try to save Henry" / "I can't see you"

[LostSpooky]

Ablaufen des Countdowns

02x14 ONE OF THEM

Mittlere Tonspur:
"Let go of Henry"
"Can we (just) abort"
"I warned him not to do it"
"Can't do it from the shelter" (south)
"Can't move him(?)"
"Hello"
"Apparently they have done this before"
"Time to get another"
"I've decided to go with this" ("I want to see it")
"We'll decide"

Mittlere Tonspur (schnell):
"Stop him"
"That'll do / "I'll go"
"I would have saved him but she ran into him"
"We need a torturer"
(Silence)
"Control of his buddy"
(Silence)
"You've heard them fighting for control?"
"All over"

Mittlere Tonspur (sehr schnell):
"What are they going to do to Henry in there?"
(Silence)
"Plan something...he got busted"
"It's not over"
(This part was a different speed than the rest)
"Obviously he knows something"
"Drop the (blast) door"
"It's gone wrong"
(In background)
"Don't set 'em free"

Linke und rechte Tonspur:
"You tell him what to do"
"Is he crawling?"
"Why don't you tell him who you are?"
"Thought I could get you to them"
"It's not over"
"Who called the doctor?"

Linke und rechte Tonspur (schnell):
"I don't think he'll be able to con them"
"Boy that makes you confident"
"Is that computer on?"
"How long has it gone for?"
(Combined with music)
"He's fine"
(Combined with music)

Linke Tonspur (sehr schnell):
"Stand up so they'll call it off"
"Who are you caring about?"
"He don't work"
"We wanted to share it"

Rechte Tonspur (sehr schnell):
"Somehow we will go and reach him"
"From here it wasn't so great"

[LostSpooky]

Autopsie-Tape

02x21 ?

(Doctor: This is a Caucasian female. She's 161 cm, 51.3 kilos, body prepped and washed by the very lovely Valerie McTavish)
(Assistant: Ian, stop it)
(Doctor: Commencing with the post)
"That's her" / "That's enough"
(Doctor: This is a clear case of drowning. I'll begin with a thoracic...)
(Charlotte Malkin: John!)
"She's alive"
"How will we know"
(Assistant: Oh my God!)
(Doctor: Valerie!)
(Assistant: She's Alive!)
(Doctor: I think she's trying...)
(Charlotte Malkin: Let John Locke go (on)!)
"She's not dead"
"I found it"
(Doctor: Try and calm down)
(Assistant screaming stop, stop)
(Doctor: Valerie get... she's crying, don't just stand there do something!)
"We’re sending them in" / "Let’s hear what she says"

[LostSpooky]

Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley und Michael

02x23 LIVE TOGETHER, DIE ALONE

"This is no good" / "Let's do something" / "We're near them"
"He's asking him something"
"Yeah but what happened"
"They saw a smoke signal"
"Elizabeth"
"Did (does) somebody see you" / "It looks like her but"
"You' re on her right"
"Behind you"
"I'll have to listen to the dreams (trees) to learn (find) something"
"He'll need to instruct you" / "Do we ambush"
"Why can't you (two) do it" / "Can't you see"
(Sawyer gets hit with dart)
"Got to have a team with you"
"Okay crank it up"
(Kate: Sawyer!)
"I knew that something bad would happen"
"I assume this is how you would do it"
"Don't tell anyone he wants it done" / "Don't want anyone to die"
"Lets assemble them" / "This is similar / "What's this symbol of"
(Jack: Run! Go! Go!)
"It was her"
"So she was never taken" / "So she must never take it" / "I'm sure it's just new to you"
"Said I was about to" / "Someone attacked them"
"Get your butt out of there"
"Try the sequence"
"Had to be given lessons"
"Turn it on beside you"
"Don't do it"
"Don't see"
(Gunshots)
"You're gonna have to do it"
"You are too"
"Why can't we choose" / "I can't reach it"
"Two more people" / "Too young people"
"I'm frightened"
"Please"
"Come on it's simple"
"Intruder alert"
"Do you think I should I lock this"
"No , I've seen them before"
"Close the door"
"You all need me"

[LostSpooky]

Jack und die Sprechanlage

03x01 A TALE OF TWO CITIES

"Has she tried to talk to him" / "Shall we talk to him"
"Look on"
"Has he answered" / "His head is hurt"
"Don't (Won't) talk"
"We're not sure if he knows that much" / "We’re not sure if we’ll find out much"
"That's what I was thinking"
"Let him go free"
"It's not easy keeping something that secret (sacred)"
(Jack: If you're trying to talk to me, I can't hear you)
"What are you gonna do" / "Go on and do it"
(Christian's voice?: Let it go Jack)
"Now I can tell what you're doing "
"Bring it back to her"

[LostSpooky]

Eko, John und "Smokey"

03x05 THE COST OF LIVING

"It's over" (faint)
(Locke: Eko)
(nicht verständlich)
(nicht verständlich)
"Right now/here" (very faint overlaps with Locke’s panting)
(Two different voices here, One says "Locke", One says "Eko")
(nicht verständlich)
(Locke: Oh Eko)
"What happened?"
"Shhhh"
(Locke: It's okay, it's okay)
"What's happening?"
"Now we got his…" / "I don’t want to kill him"
"What just happened?"
"I will guide you" / "I’m going soon" (Eko)
"What'd he say?"
"Help me up"
"Is she following"
"They’re coming next for you" (Eko)

[LostSpooky]

Ben

03x20 THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN

Male: "If he finds us we're..." or "If he recovers we're..."
Female: "He's coming right now" or "We're scanning right now"
Female: "Don't worry"
Female: "Is that where we're heading?"
(Rest nicht verständlich)

[LostSpooky]

Hurley at Jacob's cabin

04x01 THE BEGINNING OF THE END


"You have to believe it's me, Nikki"
"Shush"
"Did anyone say something?"
"I said nothing"
"You better not say a f**king thing or talk about Desmond"
"It's Me"

"I'm not going to listen to them"
"It's January 7th"
"I see somebody"
"Do you recognize him?"

[Sedge]

"It's January 7th"


Hmm...
Beginning of the End spielt an Tag 93, und Tag 94 ist Christmas' Eve 2004 (laut Lostpedia)...

[qu4d]

Hurley at Jacob's cabin

04x01 THE BEGINNING OF THE END


"You have to believe it's me, Nikki"
"Shush"
"Did anyone say something?"
"I said nothing"
"You better not say a f**king thing or talk about Desmond"
"It's Me"

"I'm not going to listen to them"
"It's January 7th"
"I see somebody"
"Do you recognize him?"




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[Gya]

Dann post ich das eben hier, da das andere Topic geschlossen wurde.
Hier wurden die Whispers ja immer so schön gepostet.. wieso gibt es denn dieses mal keine? Das man sie nicht verstanden hatte ist mir klar, aber die anderen früheren Whispers konnte man ja wohl auch nie verstehen... von daher.

[Tiffany66]

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